DETROIT -- Detroit long snapper Don Muhlbach was with the Lions back in 2008,
when they became the first -- and so far, the only -- NFL team to go 0-16.
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infamy, Muhlbach would rather not see a sequel.That was a brutal year, Muhlbach
said. As a football player to another football player, I hope no one else has to
go through that.The Browns have three more chances to avoid a winless season,
starting with this weekends game at Buffalo. If Cleveland does finish 0-16,
those 2008 Lions would have company in that pitiable club, but Detroit isnt
exactly buzzing with anticipation.Can we wait for them to go 0-16 before I pop
champagne? joked Dominic Raiola, who played center for the Lions from
2001-2014.All kidding aside, its not like an 0-16 season in Cleveland would
change what the Lions had to endure eight years ago.I havent been following what
theyve been doing and I dont really care if they win a game or not, said Raiola,
now an assistant strength and conditioning coach for the Lions.The Browns
actually have a chance to surpass the 2008 Lions in one measure of futility.
Cleveland also lost all four of its preseason games this season. Before Detroits
0-16 nightmare under Rod Marinelli eight years ago, the Lions managed to win the
four games that didnt count.Of course, even that may have come with a cost.We
were 4-0 in the preseason and showed our whole hand, said Roy Williams, a wide
receiver for that team. We used all our plays and didnt change anything when the
season started.Williams got off easy that year. He was traded in October to
Dallas. But he has some, well, interesting tales.What really sums it up is what
happened in Atlanta in our first game, Williams said. We were about to score and
(quarterback Jon) Kitna was gesturing to the sideline to let them know that he
wasnt hearing a play in his headset. Rod says into the headset, `Come in Jim!
Jim! Colletto! And Colletto finally answered and said, `Sorry, coach. I mustve
dozed off.Colletto, who was Detroits offensive coordinator that year, says he
doesnt remember any incident like that. He says in their Thanksgiving loss to
Tennessee, the Lions were penalized for delay of game immediately after a
timeout, and he had to apologize to Marinelli because hed drawn a blank on what
play to call.There wasnt anybody dozing off, Colletto said.Colletto can
certainly empathize with what Clevelands coaches are facing now.I know (Browns
coach) Hue Jackson. Theres a lot of good coaches there, Colletto said. Its hard.
Its really hard. I know what theyre going through.The 2008 Lions had their
chances to win a game. During one stretch, they dropped games to Minnesota,
Houston, Washington and Chicago, all by eight points or fewer. Detroit was even
tied in the fourth quarter of the season finale at Green Bay before falling
31-21.Every week it just kept building and building, Muhlbach said.Muhlbach and
quarterback Dan Orlovsky are the only current Lions players who were with the
team in 2008. Needless to say, its hard to stay hopeful during a season like
that, and players -- both in Detroit in 2008 and Cleveland this year -- are put
to an unenviable test.Be a pro. You have a job to do, said Tampa Bay offensive
lineman Gosder Cherilus, who played for the Lions in 2008. Every day you wake
up, dont look at the record. Know youre a big part of the team and every time
you have a chance, you want to be a part of the reason theyre winning -- not
part of the reason why theyre losing. At the end of the day, not everyones going
to give you their best, but you want to be one of the good guys.If theres any
solace for the Browns, its that the Lions actually recovered from 0-16 rather
quickly. That awful season netted them the No. 1 pick in the 2009 draft, which
they used on quarterback Matthew Stafford.Calvin Johnson was in his second
season when the Lions went winless, and he went on to become one of the greatest
players in franchise history. Team president Matt Millen was fired during that
2008 season, and Marinelli met the same fate when it was over. The Lions moved
on with Martin Mayhew as general manager and Jim Schwartz as coach.Neither of
them is still with the organization, but they helped the Lions recover from
depths no team had ever reached. In 2011, Detroit made the playoffs -- and
Stafford is a big part of this years NFC North-leading team .Yeah, but we
couldve won one game and still got Stafford, Muhlbach said.Plenty of teams have
hit rock bottom and then returned to respectability. Only one of them went
0-16.The memories of that season linger for those who experienced it.Sometimes
when you keep hearing how much of a loser you are, you start to believe it and
you accept it. Dont you ever accept that, regardless, Cherilus said. A lot of
people think you win in the National Football League just on talent, but it
takes so much more than that. If you look at the Browns, theyre just as talented
as other teams in the league. That tells you how hard it is to win.But Im
rooting for them because I dont wish for that kind of thing to happen to anyone
else.---AP Sports Writers Larry Lage and Fred Goodall contributed to this
report.---For more NFL coverage:
http://www.pro32.ap.org and
http://www.twitter.com/AP-NFL .
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half and the guys on the other side made sure that was enough, sending the
Saints to a 17-13 victory over the Atlanta Falcons on Thursday night. A look at
whats happening all around the majors Tuesday:---BULLPEN BOOSTOne day after a
blockbuster trade, star closer Aroldis Chapman is expected to join the major
league-leading Chicago Cubs for their game at the crosstown White Sox. Chasing
their first World Series title since 1908, the Cubs addressed one of their few
weaknesses Monday by sending pitcher Adam Warren and three minor league
prospects to the New York Yankees for Chapman, a dominant reliever with a
fastball that tops 100 mph. This is a game-changer, Cubs president of baseball
operations Theo Epstein said.LETS PLAY 2Following a rainout Monday night, the
Mets and Cardinals play a single-admission doubleheader at Citi Field. It was a
timely postponement for St. Louis, which didnt arrive in New York until 8:30
a.m. Monday because of travel delays following a nationally televised night
game. Mondays scheduled starters, St. Louis Carlos Martinez (9-6, 2.83 ERA) and
New Yorks Noah Syndergaard (9-4, 2.43), will pitch the first game before Jaime
Garcia (7-6, 3.98) faces Bartolo Colon (8-5, 3.48) in the nightcap.UNBEATABLE
BIRDChris Tillman (14-2, 3.18 ERA) tries to become the first 15-game winner in
the majors when Baltimore hosts Colorado. Tillman is tied with White Sox ace
Chris Sale at 14 victories, two shy of his career high set in 2013. Tillman has
won four straight starts, all behind seven innings of one-run ball. The Rockies
counter with Chad Bettis (8-6, 5.31), who is 4-1 in his last eight starts.WRIGHT
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first start in almost two years when the Angels visit Kansas City. The
25-year-old lefty had Tommy John surgery in 2014 and hasnt pitched in the majors
since. He was sharp during his minor league rehab assignment, posting a 1.60 ERA
in nine starts with 53 strikeouts over 39 1/3 innings. Skaggs is 8-11 with a
4.72 ERA in 31 major league starts.TRADE BAIT?Chris Archer (5-13, 4.60 ERA)
might be auditioning for contending teams when the Rays right-hander pitches
against the Dodgers. The 27-year-old has been the subject of trade speculation
despite a disappointing season, although hes coming off one of his best starts
this year, pitching six innings of two-run ball with 11 strikeouts in an 11-3
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